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  • pistolero
    Apr 5, 06:07 PM
    I don't know why you people don't like this. Apple announced iAds like a year ago, and I still haven't seen a single one. I'm simply curious about seeing at least one iAd to see what all the fuss is about. This App allows you to see an iAd so you can know what it is, as no one has actually really implemented them yet. This is probably the only place that has iAds in.

    You will only see iAds if the apps you use have implemented them. Most Paid apps don't have them, only free apps with ad support. iAds are not banners on safari or pop ups screens. They're like interactive applets within the app you're using. iAds are usually seen in free news apps such as the guardian or huffington post. So if you mostly use paid apps you will never see a iAd.





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  • Perrumpo
    Apr 8, 12:19 PM
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  • Lesser Evets
    May 4, 06:42 AM
    I just hope the OS doesn't begin to clutter up like OSX began to do after a couple years.

    The iPad is the future, no doubt. A little more capability, speed, and memory, and it's excellent as a home computer.





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  • dicklacara
    Jul 21, 01:25 PM
    But Apple admitted that it DOES drop more calls than 3GS.

    They spun it as "less than 1 per 100", but assuming all 3,000,000 iPhone 4 users make about 5 calls per day, that's over ONE MILLION dropped calls per week MORE than iPhone 3GS.

    It's a problem.
    It's been reproduced by CNET, Consumer Reports, NYT, and many others.

    The debate here is not whether there's a problem, but why Apple is obfuscating, rather than fixing it, pretending that bridging the gap of their electrically exposed antenna is equivalent to attenuating an antenna by completely covering it with one's meaty hand.
    (seems like moving this gap to the bottom edge of the phone where it's far less likely to be touched, would be an easy fix).

    Couple of things:

    1) What isn't factored into your calculations is that because of its more-sensitive antenna, the iP4 was able to make calls, in marginal signal areas, where the 3GS showed no signal and was not able to attempt or receive a call... dropping any of these "never-before-possible" calls would reflect poorly on the iP4, and be included in the "< 1 call per hundred" more dropped calls by the iP4.

    2) <1 per 100 more dropped calls by the iP4 than the 3GS. "< 1" can mean anything from, say, .0000000001 to .9999999999. Without knowing the real delta fraction it is difficult to base calculations on it.

    3) The 3GS came into being with a plethora of available cases-- the iP4 with 1 case, that was in so short supply as to be non-available. Apple stated that 80% of the 3GSs left their store with a case. So, many 3Gs had 2 layers of antenna shielding, the 3GS plastic housing and an external case. The bulk of iP4s had neither-- 0 levels of antenna shielding.


    All of this has been widely reported (or obvious) to those who care to objectively examine the facts. So it is a bit disingenuous to make your assertions, without qualification.

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  • Nicolasdec
    Jan 9, 05:05 PM
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  • Kenya
    Oct 3, 01:34 PM
    They might get laughed at but apple will be the ones laughing when their the first to debut santa rosa with 800mhz fsb and nand flash. Hopefully this is whats going to happen

    This is my prediction as well. We'll see!





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  • iBug2
    Apr 30, 06:48 PM
    Is there? They're already controlling what can and cannot be sold on the iOS platform (and it is an entire platform now with full-fledged computers in the form of the iPad). They've proven themselves beyond contempt by insisting that in-app subscriptions be the same or lower on the App store than direct, despite the fact that they demand 1/3 of all the selling price. They've added an 'App' store for OSX proper and have the same 30% "grab" for everything on there. They're advertising and bragging about bringing iOS features back to OSX. I'm just doing simple math here. You can make 1+1 = 1 if you say it's a bigger one, but in my world, 2 is still the more likely answer.

    And you are the ones using the words "foolish". I think it's quite possibly a business-savvy solution to ensuring profits stay high into the future. What you or I may want in OSX is irrelevant to both Apple and Steve Jobs. Steve has essentially said that consumers don't know what's best for them and that it takes a visionary to move forward. We know Steve's 'vision' is smaller/thinner/more mobile at almost any cost. So I'm not saying it will happen like that, but that it's looking more likely every day. Only time will tell for sure. But I know if it does happen, I'll no longer have an interest in OSX. I don't want Apple deciding for me what I can or cannot buy or watching developers get 1/3 their gross taken from them (same % as a typical injury lawyer BTW. You don't get paid until they get paid FIRST and your bills 2nd and you last; in this case it would be taxes instead of bills). You can think it's good/fair/right. I don't agree and I don't want Apple telling me I have to use Safari because they don't want Firefox or Chrome competing with them.



    I don't know about that. There will always be a market for faster/more powerful (i.e. most people may drive a Ford Focus or Chevy Impala or Toyota Corrola and hybrids may capture larger and larger market penetration in the future, but that doesn't mean there isn't a market for the WRX, Mustang, Corvette, etc. even if it shrinks over time) and so even if Apple AND Microsoft bail out of traditional computing, that just means someone else will likely take over. They can't make Linux go away, for example. And if people didn't BUY it, the lines would stop. Newton didn't exactly go over so well the first time around....

    Remember what Steve said. PC's as we use today will be like trucks. Yes they will be around but nobody, not you nor me are going to use them.

    And no. Are you currently using a 64 core workstation? I bet not. But they are available. So no, we don't need the fastest even today. In 15 years, an iPad will be more powerful than our 12 core Mac Pro's. And nobody will pick anything up. All computer industry will go post pc devices, because it makes much more sense. They are much easier to use, we hate them now because we can use actual PC's, but most of the population can't. Not just old people, most of the young people have tons of issues with regular PC's as well.

    And don't worry, we won't be too down about it when it finally happens, since it'll happen very slowly.

    Like I said, that's not even the weird part. We won't even have CPU's in our computers, just inputs. :)





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  • leekohler
    Mar 4, 05:43 AM
    Jail time for strikers is bizarre and totally unacceptable.

    Additionally there is no way you can claim that it is a "individual liberty" position to hold to be for jailing strikers.

    You should know by noe that fivepoint is only interested in individual freedom when it's an issue he agrees with.





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  • mdntcallr
    Oct 2, 05:42 PM
    well. i wish apple would allow record companies to sell cd's that are copy protected, with copies of songs in AAC fairplay protected. so that people can also use them digitally.





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  • -aggie-
    Jul 21, 01:55 PM
    Maybe Apple could make that an Easter Egg. Those were the days, when Easter Eggs were common. Fun times.

    Rocketman

    And bunnies. Easter eggs and bunnies...sigh.

    It's funny how people give Apple a hard time for spinning this information, when we all know the media was doing their own spin. If the media truly wanted the truth, they'd have conducted some research and have been able to really give us a good percent on how many people experience problems when using the iPhone 4 (I know, every phone has the "defect"...blah, blah, blah, blah). However, the real percent wouldn't make a good story. So, how can you blame Apple for at least trying to defend itself?





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  • Anonymous Freak
    Oct 10, 07:04 PM
    I'm sorry, but with the release of the "true video" iPod "imminent" for months now, I'm just not going to pay any attention whatsoever until I have one in my hands.

    Just like the iPhone, PowerBook G5 (and more recently, Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro, although that release hasn't been "imminent" often enough yet,) etc.

    I'm starting to doubt page 1 rumors just as much as I doubt Page 2 rumors. Unless you (MacRumors, not the 'source' website of the rumor,) have credible, reliable, direct sources, it belongs on Page 2. If you don't have direct sources, (as rumors on other websites would be,) it does not belong on page 1. By your own standards.

    Just because it's getting a lot of talk, and Engadget claims their sources are good, is no reason to upgrade it to page 1 status. (Heck, the iWalk got a lot of talk back in the day, and SpyMac claimed their sources were good. That didn't make it true.)





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  • JoeG4
    Mar 19, 04:27 PM
    On this note, I thought I'd point out that I hate it when Mac users give me **** for using a Sony laptop when I have more Macs then they've ever owned. :D





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  • Santabean2000
    Oct 4, 08:29 AM
    But he is building this house in the US, which apparently defines "mansion" as 8,000 sq ft or more.

    Yep, and the average US 'car' looks more like a tank to the rest of the world.

    Define your own boundaries, and call them normal. Nice.





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  • Ommid
    Apr 25, 12:26 PM
    I am perfectly happy with the iPhone 4 I have.

    BTW, what is that extra little rectangle above the speaker? My phone doesn't have that.:confused:

    It does, you cant see it.

    It is a secret location tracker





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  • croooow
    Apr 6, 01:26 PM
    With respect, you clearly don't work in advertising...

    You say that like it's a good thing to work in advertising. Follow Bill Hicks' advice. :cool:





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  • brianus
    Oct 17, 03:01 PM
    Yes, it's appalling.. ;)

    Oh, well, every time I hear someone say they can't see the difference between a standard DVD and an HD-DVD/BluRay disc when shown on a proper 1080p display, I cringe. Perhaps they need to just buy the 25" TV for $200 along with a $25 DVD player, take the money they save and get some laser eye surgery. :D

    Actually, with my new HD set up, most family and friends that see it in action are usually awed by it. I have several friends and neighbors that continuously invite themselves over for monday night football and other events. Most of them think it's pretty cool, but would never spend that kind of money on their home theatre setup (I don't think I spent that much, the TV accounted for over half of everything and it was $3600). A couple of them in the past few months though didn't balk at the price and they went and bought one too...

    But yeah, I'm an "-ophile" when it comes to audio and video. I don't really fit in with the rest of my family. I have an uncle that's only about 10 years older than me and I let him have a left-over 20" TV when I moved. I told him it's a nice set - only about 3 years old. His only concern was "is it color?".

    I know I'm the minority around here when I say this, but I don't own an iPod. :eek: Yeah, it's true... I personally don't care for the MP3 format and the lesser quality offerings of iTunes. If it isn't at least CD quality, uncompressed, I don't want it. And yes, I can hear the difference on my sound system which is a separate setup from my home theatre.

    My wife tells me that I'm insane... She's probably right, but what do I care. :D

    Well, my dad's the same way with audio. He's a professional sound engineer, so it stands to reason -- he's still got a huge stack of DAT tapes next to the computer. No DVD-Audio though; you just can't find it much anymore.

    If most folks not only don't have the knowledge or interest, they also don't have the kind of money to invest in these kinds of hi-def technologies in their early, expensive years (for HD that includes, of course, the enormous televisions required to really get anything from the higher definition). By the time this stuff comes down in price and is more readily available, SD downloads will be more common.

    I suppose working in the HD formats' favor is the coming of HDTV, which will be the standard whether we like it or not. Sooner or later DVD-9 will *have* to be superceded by something in a high definition format, else the stuff we download or buy will be crappier looking than the stuff we can watch for free. And, of course, in the mean time the discs themselves will be extremely useful for some types of data storage. I eagerly await the day when, in my job, I can archive a TB of files to eight 200GB Blu-Rays instead of 200-odd DVD-Rs, and I'm sure many small/medium businesses do too.





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  • Glideslope
    May 2, 02:20 PM
    I should hope that this update will allay any of the concerns and fears that some panic-stricken people have had lately.

    Old news. Already moved to the White iPhone's Thickness. :apple:





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  • MacRumors
    Sep 25, 10:57 AM
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    Apple held their Photokina Media Event (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060914090209.shtml) today and announced Aperture 1.5.

    Aperture 1.5 provides more iLife inegration, plug-in support for Internet services, and advanced library and editing features. An early summary of features are listed:

    • More flexible use of storage. Photos on DVDs and other storage.
    • Offline media can be "edited"
    • iLife, iDVD, iWork, Keynote integration<
    • Plug-in API offered. Plug Ins for Gettyimages, iStockPhoto, and Flickr available, with more coming
    • New Loupe, Magnification no longer tied to specific settings/steps.
    •*Loupe shows color information
    • Improved Meta-data support, allowing meta data assigned to several images.
    • XMP format is supported
    • Better sharpening tool
    • New full-screen comparison mode for several images at once
    • iPod/iTunes integration. Transfer photos to your iPod

    It is a free update to existing Aperture owners and should be available later this week.

    Please keep discussion on topic. If you are disappointed with the media event for lack of other announcements, discuss it in the Media Event thread (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060925104838.shtml). Otherwise, this thread is for Aperture





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  • ipedro
    Sep 25, 11:29 AM
    I suppose there could be a bit of news here for non-photographers.

    As I understand it, Aperture uses OS X's built-in RAW image processing. If I remember rightly, the last Aperture update accompanied an OS X update. So it's possible 10.4.8 could be just around the corner (i.e. sometime this week?)

    It's a Photography show .... It baffles my mind that people make far out unfounded predictions and then are disappointed and curse Apple when they don't come true.

    The best example of that was the "One More Thing" event where the iPod Hi-Fi and Intel Mac Mini were shown. This event wasn't meant for the general public, so much that it wasn't broadcast to the public.

    Now here's another example which Apple doesn't hype about to the public and "darn, all they do is show an update to a photography pro tool at a photography convention... Apple stock will surely fall with this news"

    I for one am real happy with the offline feature. I've been using a workaround to save my giant library off my MacBook Pro. The iLife connectivity and Flickr plugin are also very welcome.

    Now I'm just hoping that this version of Aperture is a little snappier because even on a fully loaded MBP, I get beachballs all the time.





    SteveKnobs
    Mar 17, 08:20 AM
    The fact that you feel good about yourself after doing this, to the point where you come on here to gloat, speaks volumes about your character.




    Pretty grotesque.

    I think grotesque should be a word reserved for murderers and child pornographers, not some dude who got a very cheap iPad due to some employee error. We're pretty much all adults here- there's no need to lecture people on morals and what their personal character may or may not include.





    EricNau
    Apr 22, 02:51 AM
    "Thanks" might work in a pure support form. But for news discussion, it makes little sense.

    arn
    Perhaps a "Relevant" button then.
    Essentially just like Facebook's "Like" feature, then? People seem to like it on Facebook; would it be useful here?





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    Aug 15, 12:51 AM
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    FleurDuMal
    Jan 12, 05:10 AM
    Steve Jobs s***s on a stage and you all gather around to share the love.


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    Clive At Five
    Oct 19, 01:41 PM
    Have you heard anyone say that they are anxiously anticipating Vista? Microsoft will try to generate some synthetic excitement over Vista, but in reality, hardly anyone will really care.

    I couldn't disagree with you more.

    I've been a Apple-user since infancy, practically, (so don't take me to be a MS fanboy), but I also appreciate PCs. I have a iMac G4 for home and a PC laptop which I used on campus and have continued to use out of college. I recently downloaded and installed Vista RC1, and regardless of its still-beta form, it is surprizingly stable (for basic uses), plus has a gorgeous user-interface (nevermind it's an obvious aqua rip-off). In fact, I'm almost to the point where I want to set Vista as my default OS.

    The point of saying all this is that Vista IS going to be a solid OS* and IS going to be a "threat" to OSX. If anything, I think that hardly anyone cares about OSX. To a lot of people, OSX is something they saw once that looked cool but didn't seem like a relevant option given how they used computers (of course they don't know that they're usually wrong). Now there will be a version of Windows that looks and feels like that other cool thing... which is exactly what they want. Average users aren't analytic about their computer purchases like we are. We know Macs are better because we've studied the options... but MS knows most people won't study. And to those people, Windows Vista is going to be a very alluring option... and will keep them from using those brain cells.

    These people and everyone else who has made the decision to use a PC (myself included) are greatly anticipating Vista's release (or in my case, Vista SP1), and it will be a welcomed addition to the PC-user's home.

    -Clive

    *DISCLAIMER - Vista won't likely be very solid until SP1. Vista is/will be a prime example of bloatware (7.5GB installed) due to its backward compatability and poor overall design. Fortunately for PC users, even the premium hardware demands will be met easily enough by today's CPUs. My laptop (2 years old) cannot run Aero Effects or any other special features of Vista, but still runs very smoothly with the features disabled. And, yes, I've had some blue-screens but that's because I was tampering with drivers and settings... something the average user won't be doing. And again, lastly, I repeat that I use a PC to suppliment my Desktop Mac. My PC Laptop was purchased at a time before Intel Macs were available... nor had any prospect of being able to dual-boot to Windows. It was a near-mandatory OS decision due to specific software needed for college classes... and, yes... LAN party gaming (which IS a college requirement, BTW).



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  • Chris in SJ
    Jan 9, 05:12 PM
    Just wait, it will eventually play

    Ummm.. just out of curiousity.. when you say 'eventually' do you mean 1 minute? 5 minutes? 30 minutes? 90 minutes?

    I have been waiting here for 15 minutes and it's still not playing..

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  • saving107
    May 2, 09:48 AM
    Any word on whether there'll be an update for iPhone 3G users? The highest version of iOS they can use currently is 4.2.1, which presumably has the location cache problems too?

    just like the original iPhone that got left behind on iOS 3.1.3, your done and if you want to continue to get the newest updates, upgrade your phone.





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  • diamond.g
    Jul 30, 10:53 AM
    That's the great thing about a platform like the Volt, or anything like it: you can easily change whatever gives the electricity. Gas not working right? The American public finally getting their asses out of their collective heads about diesel? Just get one the right size, and hook it up to the generator. It works for trains. Small fusion reactors finally a possibility? Bingo!

    If GM hadn't ****ed up when they tried bringing diesel cars to the market, it wouldn't be anywhere near as bad. We still have some old M-B diesels kicking around, and probably a good bunch of them run on SVO by now.


    Subaru still sells FWD cars, just not in the US or Europe.

    Why did you burst my bubble of Subarus awesomeness? :(

    Don't forget the dealership markup. Some of the automotive blogs have people complaining that the dealerships are adding a $10k markup to the already expensive vehicle.





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  • James17
    Oct 12, 07:06 PM
    Gizmodo is not credible in my opinion!





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  • camsd85
    Mar 17, 12:53 AM
    I am a reward zone member, the receipt said I paid $530.00 cash. I also received my reward zone points for purchase believe it or not. Funny thing is the kid looked like he was having a crappy day to begin with and probably had it with the madness in the store and looked like he didn't know how to take 2 different forms of payment.

    I'm not usually one to preach, especially if it was just Best Buy's loss--but the guy who rang you up might very well have lost his job for having $200+ cash missing from his register(since you mentioned that your receipt said $530 cash paid).





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  • skunk
    Apr 21, 11:49 AM
    Apathy would be not clicking anything.If I want to revert to apathy from a previously engaged stance, I can't. I have to actively disapprove or actively approve.





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  • minnesotamacman
    Sep 12, 08:06 AM
    Think they will close the store this morning to update the laptop line??? or will they do it when they close the store during the live session?





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  • Lord Blackadder
    Nov 16, 10:12 AM
    I doubt Apple will go with AMD in the near future - at the moment Intel has the performance lead and the AMD/Intel war is so hot Intel would no doubt punish Apple for adding AMD CPUs to their product line.

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  • DoFoT9
    Jul 13, 09:50 PM
    thanks. it's good to be back, but like i said, i'm having serious internet issues here. i'm paying for 12 mb/s, and sometimes i'm getting less than 1! :mad:

    dang. well once i get the internet situation under control, i'll be able to contribute more.
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  • inkswamp
    May 3, 05:43 PM
    And why is this on mac rumors.

    Does it really matter what the competition does.

    Why is there always someone doing this? Does nobody go by the old netiquette rule of lurking on a site for a while to get a feel for things before posting?

    I assume you haven't taken the time to fully absorb what this site is about. It goes beyond just Mac rumors. Go back through the archives of the site and you'll see. MR has always posted significant updates about direct competitors to Apple products as well as news concerning the tech industry that could impact Macs and iOS users. It's nothing new.

    Oh, and welcome to the site. :)





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    Aug 8, 12:15 PM
    I have an old 23" monitor and it's flawless.
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  • Popeye206
    May 4, 07:10 AM
    I love how these type of topics bring up all sorts of off the wall comments from politics, to legality of things.

    The bottom line is, the carriers are not a fan of customers going around the system.. whatever that "system" is. Where Apple has played along with the carriers, Android devices have promoted going around the system and it looks like the carriers are not happy about this.

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  • Teddy's
    Jan 13, 03:24 PM
    That's so childish. I hope somebody sue their asses off. Gizmondo did something like "smashmyces.com" I don't know.





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    Apr 15, 02:35 PM
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  • rerelease
    Apr 25, 02:57 PM
    I actually really dislike the borderless look. I hope they don't do this. A larger screen is one thing I really don't need. If I want a big screen, I'll get an iPad.

    Same here. It's completely unwarranted, there's virtually no space to be gained and it looks aesthetically weaker compared to the iPhone 4.





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  • *LTD*
    Mar 10, 07:52 AM
    The Click Wheel interface was/is an abomination and exactly the opposite of a "good" interface. It's a horrible mess. The only usable iPod is the iPod Touch.

    The click wheel interface was, in fact, a key element in the astounding (and that's putting it mildly) success of the iPod.

    I thought everyone knew this already. :confused:



    Apple used to innovate, right now they have acheived the goal of any capitalist company, they've hit the big time with the iPhone and are resting on their laurels.


    In case you haven't noticed, they've redefined computing almost overnight. They're now building on that. They've got the competition completely flummoxed. They're pushing the industry forward with their apparent non-innovations.





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  • saxamoophone
    Apr 29, 04:41 PM
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8G4 Safari/6533.18.5)

    So will ipad3 or ipad4 will be running MAC OS X??





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  • darwen
    Oct 10, 11:01 PM
    What a shocker. Can this really be considered news anymore?

    I saw this on Engadget a couple days ago... it is seriously getting old. Engadget does not have any good sources at apple.





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  • WillEH
    Apr 27, 05:57 PM
    Arn,

    May I ask if you feel this feature has been useful so far. I really like the concept of a post rating. But I feel like this doesn't bring any real value to the MR community.

    Thanks,

    :)





    saving107
    May 2, 09:48 AM
    Any word on whether there'll be an update for iPhone 3G users? The highest version of iOS they can use currently is 4.2.1, which presumably has the location cache problems too?

    just like the original iPhone that got left behind on iOS 3.1.3, your done and if you want to continue to get the newest updates, upgrade your phone.





    STTMac
    Apr 15, 01:29 PM
    This a very bad render fake picture kind.... Where did you see any apple product with that ugly back edge??? If you open the metadata of the picture with aperture you'll see.... well a BIG nothing no signature from any camera that may be used to take the picture... So pixel mix, noise on the render, bad shadow from the light source... the list may keep going... Try harder dude this is a very bad FAKE!!!

    You put in a bad light the iPhone much bad that your light from the render...:confused:





    steadysignal
    Apr 15, 07:35 PM
    What about Amazon? Jobs made the big fuss about ending DRM, but he kept negotiating with the labels unsuccessfully, because he didn't want variable pricing either. So all the labels gave DRM-free tracks to Amazon. No DRM, but variable pricing. Jobs had to cave eventually.

    seamless is only good for so much with the DRM.

    i buy more and more off Amazon to get the open format.





    iJohnHenry
    Mar 4, 10:16 AM
    (edit) In case anyone thinks I have said anything mean about FP's wife, keep in mind the only thing I know about her is that she's a teacher in a union.

    And the fact that she married 5P. ;)





    mclihah2
    Oct 11, 12:11 AM
    At this point, ill believe it when it happens

    Well personally, I'll fervently believe in it, until it happens, at which point I will stop believing in it at all.



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